No problem. This post will be dropped soon anyway. We can pick up as the opportunity arises…

I think we need to discuss Objective Moral Law and stick with that until we figure out what each of us believes. I’ve stated before that if you believe in Moral Relativism, there isn’t much to be said, because it will always come down to your opinion vs my opinion. Only if we agree on the premise that there IS Objective Moral law, can we begin to discern what the truth is in regards to abortion.

Does that make sense?

Just that fact that you say those who are prochoice are surprised when they learn of this, shows that they don’t all know that it goes on…

As I said, I’ve witnessed some really shocking stuff!

And yes, some subset of pro abortionists do cheer the violence. The receptionist at the clinic where Ed Snell (standing on private property no less) was assaulted and nearly killed told a reporter that he got what he deserved. (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1157)

It would be nice if the big media would cover these events, so that a true picture of what is going on would emerge but this is the same crowd that actively worked to put Obama into office. Intellectual honesty simply isn’t part of their make-up.

Lots of people, including those who are pro-choice, are honestly surprised when they learn of this.

I don’t remember that one in particular, but if verbal abuse counts as violence, I’d have to say the pro choice side “wins” that one…

Although I have to say that our side also dabbles in skewing the statistics. (Gotta be fair) We list all botched abortions and forced abortions as “violence” perpetrated by the pro choice side. While they are indeed violent acts, they are not done in the “name” of pro choice, anymore than Eric Rudolph worked on behalf of the pro life movement. I’m sure that the pro choice side would denounce women being forced to have abortions and incompetent (or worse) abortion doctors.

But I can tell you from first hand experience that I have taken my share of verbal abuse…I’ve had food thrown at me, a gun pointed at me, and we actually got a cop fired for misconduct…I’ve been called things that I wouldn’t even reprint…

I’m in no way saying that ALL prochoicers are like this. I’m just pointing out that I have NEVER been in the company of a violent act done by a pro lifer, but have seen countless (and I do mean countless) acts of “misconduct” personally done to me, by pro choicers.

http://www.prochoice.org/pubs_research/publications/downloads/about_abortion/violence_statistics.pdf

They list 11,000 cases of picketing, 700 of hate mail…c’mon. Don’t you think that’s skewing the numbers just a bit. But it allows them to claim that hundreds of thousands of incidences occur…

There have been six murders since Roe V Wade, ALL of which were WRONG. But name me any other civil rights war that had so little violence associated with it. Ask any cop what he thinks of the Pro Lifers as a whole in terms of violence. It’s the easiet group they have to deal with.

ALL violence is denounced by 99.9% of Pro Life groups. That’s a no brainer, as by definition the Pro Life group as a whole is, as you say, a CULT OF LIFE…

I know the Schiedlers very well. That case went to the Supremem Court three times and NOW LOST. Period. Joe Schiedler was exonerated.

If you go to Pro choice sites that list the “violent” acts that they are talking about, I think you’d be shocked to see that “Picketing” is listed as a violent act.