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Still Crazy After All These Years

March 12, 2006 | 10 Comments

G.K. Chesterton, The Ball and the Cross, 1909:

As I was observing . . . this man also took the view that the symbol of Christianity was a symbol of savagery and all unreason. His history is rather amusing. It is also a perfect allegory of what happens to rationalists like yourself. He began, of course, by refusing to allow a crucifix in his house, or round his wife’s neck, or even in a picture. He said, as you say, that it was an arbitrary and fantastic shape, that it was a monstrosity, loved because it was paradoxical. Then he began to grow fiercer and more eccentric; he would batter the crosses by the roadside; for he lived in a Roman Catholic country.

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When he returned to his house he was a literal madman. He sat upon a chair and then started up from it for the cross-bars of the carpentry repeated the intolerable image. He flung himself upon a bed only to remember that this, too, like all workmanlike things, was constructed on the accursed plan. He broke his furniture because it was made of crosses. He burnt his house because it was made of crosses. He was found in the river.

Gary Bauer, in The Catholic Exchange, 2003:

Now that the Ten Commandments monument has been removed from the Alabama Supreme Court, rabid secularists have set their sights on another target: the steel-beam cross found in the rubble of Ground Zero.

The cross immediately became a symbol of hope to thousands of families of September 11th victims, but it enrages the radicals. “This is a Christian religious advertisement, and allowing it to stay there is an insult to everyone who doesn’t believe in that particular religion.” So says Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists, who is waging her own “jihad” to have the steel cross banned from any World Trade Center memorial.

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10 Responses to “Still Crazy After All These Years”

  1. The No God Boy
    March 12th, 2006 @ 8:27 pm

    We should find an atheist who died in the WTC and sue.

    Christians like to try to proclaim place like this a hallowed ground…..as if god came closer that day to carry the lost souls home. I would ask why the all powerful bastard showed up late and let the incalcuable suffering happen in the first place.

    We should stand together and proclaim the WTC site as a monument to the faithless…..proof that there is nothing but mans hatred of other men at work in society. The place is an example of the outcome and heartache that misplaced faith in a non-existant god yields.

    We need an atheist symbol to place right next to theirs.

  2. "Q" the Enchanter
    March 12th, 2006 @ 9:11 pm

    I suggest the following compromise: Place the “cross” back in the pile of rubbish it was mixed in with, adorn the scene with pictures of the human remains of all those people God decided not to save that day, and leave the whole thing as a monument to God’s wonder-working power.

  3. "Q" the Enchanter
    March 12th, 2006 @ 9:11 pm

    I suggest the following compromise: Place the “cross” back in the pile of rubbish it was mixed in with, adorn the scene with pictures of the human remains of all those people God decided not to save that day, and leave the whole thing as a monument to God’s wonder-working power.

  4. "Q" the Enchanter
    March 12th, 2006 @ 9:11 pm

    I suggest the following compromise: Place the “cross” back in the pile of rubbish it was mixed in with, adorn the scene with pictures of the human remains of all those people God decided not to save that day, and leave the whole thing as a monument to God’s wonder-working power.

  5. snap crafter
    March 12th, 2006 @ 10:21 pm

    “Even an atheist watching this building must have said, ‘Oh, my God!’ Evil did this work, and God prevailed to show his strength.”

    ‘Fraid not, given that the cross is one fo the most basic shapes you could find, I’m not surprised that amid a chaos of destruction a few random things where in their likeness. Now… if there were like a whole yard of crosses, all in a sort of order and line, then maybe I would think it was a sign, if there wasn’t enough time for an outside theist to do such a thing.

  6. The No God Boy
    March 12th, 2006 @ 11:20 pm

    If a god had “prevailed” I would assume that the buildings would still be there.

    I like that. Thats good. Some jackass comes over and burns down my house and, as he drives away, I stand in the smoldering ruins, pull up a recognizable bit of debris like say a kitchen fork, and yell “I prevailed you bastard”.

    Yeah. Thats the ticket.

    There is no god.

  7. phalsephrophet
    March 12th, 2006 @ 11:35 pm

    Two jetliners, two of the world’s tallest buildings, thousands of lives lost, and all we get is a lousy cross? God is a waste.

  8. JUST_ANOTHER_PRIMATE
    March 13th, 2006 @ 9:13 am

    That so called cross is an insult no only to atheists but to all the non christians that perished that day.

    There was a “memorial sketch” going around shortly after 9/11 that depicted jesus watching over all the destruction and out of the plumes of smoke he was picking out the people who died and was delivering them to his father in heaven.

    Of course there was no disclaimer in the sketch indicating that the atheists, hindus, buddhists etc were all headed in the other direction.

    Rip that thing down it is just a random piece of debris.

  9. conleythorn
    March 13th, 2006 @ 11:27 am

    The Chesterton excerpt is typical of Christian extremists’ willingness to exaggerate to the point of perfidy in their attempt to demonize atheism. Probably the earliest was the claim that John the Baptist conferred the title of “Messiah” on Jesus, though John was believed by his followers to be the messiah. As to the crosses of 9-11, I think it might be a sobering experience for Christians if they could compare the number of cross shapes to the number of crescent shapes among the twisted beams of the WTC–but probably not! -Thorngod

  10. Rocketman
    March 14th, 2006 @ 8:37 am

    I say this as an atheist.

    I say leave it. If it provides even false comfort for some who have loved ones who died there then leave it.

    I would hope that the atheists who did die would allow them that hollow comfort.

    Take the higher ground. It is not a holy site–but it is one rife with pain. For those who died who were not of that faith–they are dead and cannot regret anything.

    For those who have lost loved ones of another faith–let them champion their cause without a bunch of atheists telling them what they should or should not be upset about.

    Removing this source of comfort does nothing but promote another agenda–leave it be.

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