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Wickedness

December 18, 2005 | 21 Comments

Evil Ashli continues to impose her belief system upon women.

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21 Responses to “Wickedness”

  1. David
    December 18th, 2005 @ 3:10 pm

    Read Ashli’s abortion story here and tell me which side of the debate really merits the title “Culture of Death”.

  2. Lily
    December 18th, 2005 @ 3:46 pm

    Ashli’s story would make a stone weep. I can’t believe the horror she endured while pregnant nor the grief she still endures. Words fail me.

  3. The Raving Atheist
    December 18th, 2005 @ 4:41 pm

    If you truly want to appreciate the hatefulness of this witch in human form, read this and this.

    Sickening.

  4. Lily
    December 18th, 2005 @ 7:28 pm

    RA:
    I just finished reading Ashli’s blog archives from her Elise pregnancy. Now these stories! I keep grasping for words to say what I feel and I cannot find them. I am profoundly grateful to you for making her known to me.

  5. Viole
    December 19th, 2005 @ 12:37 pm

    *beats head against wall*

  6. Steve G.
    December 19th, 2005 @ 12:38 pm

    RA:
    I am with Lily on this. Thank you so much for introducing this wonderful woman to us.

    She really walks the talk. Reading about her remarkable efforts makes me feel unworthy of the title pro-life. What I do compared to her isn’t worthy of being called a pittance.

    And reading about her dealings with Ashli and placing it in contrast to the Ms. Nathan and the Haven Coalition you wrote about recently is jolting to say the least.

    Thanks for what you do on this issue.

  7. ashli
    December 20th, 2005 @ 11:44 am

    thanks for your compassionate, too-kind responses. but you must know that i truly deserve none of it. i haven’t put forth this kind of effort because i’m wonderfully, deliciously nice. i’ve done it because, after enduring an abortion experience, i am a slave. it is hard for me to know what i know, feel what i feel, and not step in where i may to prevent others from being equally traumatized. i wouldn’t wish this on a dog.

    thank you again, though. i am touched by your kindness.

    do what you can when you can.

  8. jahrta
    December 20th, 2005 @ 1:51 pm

    Ashli

    First of all, my condolensces to you and your husband over having lost the child you most obviously wanted. That having been said, you shouldn’t bash yourself over the head about it – you were ridiculously sick and you very well could have died, especially in the “care” of the most dimwitted and incompetent doctors to be found anywhere in the world. You said you wanted to name your child tennessee…i’ll go against my own instincts and keep the comments on that one to myself, but does that mean that you’re living in tennessee? Because if you are, that’s one place I definitely don’t want to be in if I get sick. I will also say this much: you missed out. BIG. Do you have any comprehension of the vast sums of money you could have gotten both from the board of ed for wrongful termination as well as from the hospitals and individual doctors who handled your case with all the finesse of a retarded rhesus monkey with a rusty pair of scissors in one scat-covered hand and a bottle of jack daniels in the other? “Doctors” such as these are the very reason we have malpractice insurance in this country. Obviously I was not there so I cannot attest to how you were treated at the hands of the abortion doctors/nurses, but it seems illogical to me that one such nurse would do everything in her power to goad you to tears over “not wanting your baby enough.” It seems to me that such a woman who finds abortion to be such an objectionable personal choice would, oh..i dunno..find an alternative career path? If I had been in your shoes, I think I would have used the last of my strength to punch her in the throat, content in the knowledge that the ensuing strain and dissiness brought about from the swing would cause me to projectile vomit all over the ignorant bitch.

    Again, my condolensces.

    P.S. – there is no god.

  9. twyg
    December 20th, 2005 @ 4:40 pm

    wow. i read ashli’s “story” and had a good laugh. that woman is obviously a whack-job and i seriously doubt that most (if any) of that “ordeal” ever really took place. the story is so full of holes and contradictions that it is a wonder that anyone could take her seriously. figures she’d be a christian though…

  10. Lily
    December 20th, 2005 @ 5:58 pm

    You, twyg. are are a heartless jackass and an idiot to boot. I mean that literally, as in mentally incompetent, as well as morally. Read a description of the disease she suffers from (Hyperemesis Gravidarum) and shut your venom-spewing mouth.

  11. Lily
    December 20th, 2005 @ 8:22 pm

    And you Jahrta. You actually managed an understandable human response and then ruined it with your stupid p.s. Is that your idea of comforting someone who is hurting? Why, I’ll bet you would tell a Viet Nam vet with PTSD to suck it up… they were only gooks, after all. What a mensch!

  12. SteveG
    December 20th, 2005 @ 9:43 pm

    Serioiusly Jahrta. You have all the sensitivity of a friggin rock sometimes. Grow up already and stop assuming EVERYTHING has to always be about scoring points.

  13. twyg
    December 21st, 2005 @ 8:43 am

    Lilith,
    I never said the DISEASE was made up, just her wild, rambling inconsistent story. pull your head out of your emotional ass for a second and pay attention.

  14. twyg
    December 21st, 2005 @ 8:47 am

    lillian,
    a mensch means a good person, or a stand-up guy and you attempt to use it as an insult. what a dumb-fuck. and you have the audacity to call me an idiot (to boot)!

  15. Lily
    December 21st, 2005 @ 9:02 am

    You are a potty-mouth and a boor, twyggy. I know perfectly well what you meant and you are still a mentally and emotionally heartless jackass.

  16. ashli
    December 21st, 2005 @ 9:41 am

    i can take it, twyg. i’ve had worse things happen in my life than you.

    jahrta, you made me giggle with the witty and smart description re: my medical mishandling. thank you for what i know was meant compassionately.

    lily and steve, thanks for caring about me.

    p.s.
    tennessee died because i rejected God. elise
    lived because i finally believed in Him. rejecting God brought me death. accepting Him brought me life. you do what you want to do.

  17. jahrta
    December 21st, 2005 @ 1:41 pm

    Ashli – thanks for taking it in the spirit in which it was intended.

    Not to nitpick, but why do you say that “rejecting god” brought you death? it seems to me that you stood a very good chance of dying if you attempted to carry to term under the circumstances you described. Why do you think that there’d be a loving god out there who would want you to suffer and possibly even die just to give birth?

    If anything, if ever there was a god as described in the bible (all knowing, all powerful) he chose to abandon you, not the other way around. Either way don’t beat yourself up over it. you made the right decision and it sounds like you will be a great mom, even if we have VASTLY different viewpoints on the nature of our universe. You can always try again or adopt if such is your will.

  18. Annie B.
    December 21st, 2005 @ 5:16 pm

    wow. i read twyg’s comment and had a good laugh. that (wo)man is obviously a whack-job and i seriously doubt that most (if any) of what s/he said s/he could possibly really mean. His/her comment is so full of holes and contradictions that it is a wonder that anyone could take him/her seriously. figures she’d be a atheist though…

    Ashli stood a very good chance of dying if she attempted to carry Elise to term too, under virtually the same circumstances she described for Tennessee. The difference? Ashli reports it was her faith in God. Why isn’t that enough?

    If you’d ever “walked that talk,” perhaps you’ll be able to understand.

  19. Annie B.
    December 21st, 2005 @ 5:19 pm

    …s/he’d be AN atheist…

  20. ashli
    December 21st, 2005 @ 9:05 pm

    (please forgive me for the length)…

    good question, jahrta. God was always there telling me what to do in my situation. i wouldn’t listen. i wanted things done on my terms, when i said, how i said. if He didn’t meet my demands, then to the devil with Him. that was my attitude. so for all my prayers, i didn’t accept God for Who He Is.

    now… this will be controversial, but this is just my perspective and there is Biblical basis, so i hope i’ve at least touched on understanding it. i think a loving God allows His children to stumble so that they can feel the horror of living on their own after rejecting His wisdom. He says this when He talks of wisdom in proverbs (1:20-33).

    also, i love my children, but i let them get into trouble some, because nothing teaches like a “natural consequence”. and i discipline them as well. “my child, don’t ignore it when the Lord disciplines you, don’t be discouraged when He corrects you. for the Lord corrects those He loves just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.” also in proverbs (3:11-12). if i didn’t love my children i would protect them from all harm, cater to their every whim, and end up with a lovely little pair of veruca salts.

    so, while it all hurt terribly i am quite thankful that it woke me from my sleep. and i’m touched that you approve of the results.

    as for the harshness of my original ordeal, i deserved it. but then there’s the matter of my child… s/he didn’t deserve it. so why did God let me do it? why did God let john the baptist die or isaiah, or His own Son? i do not think i am better than God. if He didn’t save His own Son, why is He required to save mine (or else)? He has a purpose. half the time i don’t know what in tarnation it is, but that has no bearing on His reality. i see a world of good that came from my child’s sad and wrongful death. for example, i have seen other children live directly because my child lived and died. while these things are so good as to be downright miraculous, i hated every bit of getting here! but to be fair, God never wanted any of the pain for me or my child. that’s why He told me again and again to lean on Him and certainly to protect my child’s life (1 corinth. 13:4-8). i took it into my own hands, tore everything down, and eventually, He took me back.

    i don’t know why it all happened. but i know He loves me, and i see it in the eyes of my living children, children i never would have had were it not for him, particularly my daughter.

    normally i wouldn’t go on this way on an atheism site. i don’t care to antagonize or challenge anyone, and i know you atheists hate this and think i’m an idiot for saying it. i can take it. however, you did ask, and your response was so kind that i really wanted to answer.

    i know we disagree, but i’m so very thankful for you.

    i’m probably not going to check back to these comments due to simple time constraints. also, i sort of need a little vacation from the deep and heavy things of life. i just wanna be who i am without fighting for it, and i wanna chill out a little. so i’m off to watch spongebob…

  21. Annie B.
    December 22nd, 2005 @ 6:46 pm

    ((((((((((((((Ashli)))))))))))))))))))

    What she said. Seriously. Describes my take on my abortion and subsequent realizations to a T. Said it better than I have been able to, on this blog…in the way past……’cept I didn’t have a life-threatening illness that led me to my abortion. I HAD no “excuse”…

    Ash, my kid is now past the Spongebob days but I do still enjoy those memories! Long live Spongebob and Patrick and Squidward!

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