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God Squad Review CLIII (Converting Oppressed Atheists)

December 19, 2005 | 6 Comments

A Squad reader wants to bring a besieged atheist friend back to the faith:

What do you say to a kind, loving person who says, “There is no God”? My friend and her husband have five children. They became foster parents to four other special-needs children and then adopted them. The husband is in his last days of a six-year battle with cancer. The wife is also battling lymphoma and goes in and out of the hospital for treatment. Obviously, she’s tired when she comes home and has a difficult time caring for her husband. The children all help, but more than that, she has lost her faith. What would you say to her?

The Squad offers a series of self-contradictory suggestions:

(1) “Give her a pass on the question of whether God exists; let God take care of that.”

(2) “When someone says there is no God, it should represent the beginning of a discussion, rather than the end..”

(3) “Rarely can you convince someone of the existence of God.”

Ultimately, they conclude that “God, who loves us all, will have a very special place for her in the world to come.” In other words, it doesn’t matter whether she believes or not.

Personally, I think that when someone says that it doesn”t matter whether one believes in God or not, it should represent the beginning of a discussion rather than the end. Rarely, however, can I convince anyone of this. What do you th___. . . never mind, I’lll give you a pass on this one.


6 Responses to “God Squad Review CLIII (Converting Oppressed Atheists)”

  1. Kafkaesquí
    December 19th, 2005 @ 2:48 am

    #2 comes off as pure lip service, since #1 and #3 are effectively arguments against evangelical movements. Discuss.

  2. a different tim
    December 19th, 2005 @ 5:54 am

    I’d like more details of that “very special place”.

  3. June
    December 19th, 2005 @ 11:02 am

    A couple, both battling cancer, has 5 children and adopts 4 more with special needs.
    God is obviously incompetent and impotent.
    Forget God.
    Get the local Social Services to rescue those kids.

  4. Ponderer
    December 19th, 2005 @ 1:58 pm

    What incompetant moron let these people have those kids?

  5. Breakerslion
    December 19th, 2005 @ 2:09 pm

    Hmmm. I’m wondering if adopting all those special needs kids created an income stream in some way, like Social Security checks? I know that foster care families get paid for their trouble. They also might be recipients of other philanthropy and Social Services. Is this just a way to work the system, or am I being too cynical? I would think that one adopted and five natural children would be enough for any couple to lavish love upon. Is there an Accountant in the house?

  6. BC
    December 24th, 2005 @ 3:35 pm

    Don’t understand why the reader believes that horrible battles with cancer are but pithy things compared to the REAL problem: her loss of faith.

    1 & 3 are quite poignant. Basically meaning ‘Leave the poor woman alone about the God stuff! She has other things to worry about and you might actually be a friend and help her with those.’

    PS. Yes, Breakerslion. You might be being a bit too cynical.


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