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Eat This

October 20, 2005 | 18 Comments

If you want a Kosher meal in prison, all you have to do is say you

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18 Responses to “Eat This”

  1. Eva
    October 20th, 2005 @ 10:39 am

    is it me, or the page is all screwed up?

  2. Viole
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:00 am

    No, no. The page is all screwed up.

  3. Kate B.
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:36 am

    “Like the inmate, they

  4. leon
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:53 am

    Eva said:
    is it me, or the page is all screwed up?

    It’s you

  5. MBains
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:59 am

    To see you actually take someone’s belief seriously, rather than trying to stuff it with straw to make it more flammable.

    Burn baby burn!

    I think you just made his point for him Kate B. The next person to prove their religion is serious (NOT that they themself or the consequences of their beliefs can be such…) wins the ultimate booby prize.

    Since I don’t foresee (heh heh) that happening, I’ll not name the prize.

  6. Eva
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:59 am

    leon, i cant see the top or all the stuff on the right margin of the page….apparently viole can’t either…
    what is happening then?

  7. MBains
    October 20th, 2005 @ 11:59 am

    To see you actually take someone’s belief seriously, rather than trying to stuff it with straw to make it more flammable.

    Burn baby burn!

    I think you just made his point for him Kate B. The next person to prove their religion is serious (NOT that they themself or the consequences of their beliefs can be such…) wins the ultimate booby prize.

    Since I don’t foresee (heh heh) that happening, I’ll not name the prize.

  8. MBains
    October 20th, 2005 @ 12:00 pm

    The page is whacked in Firefox 1.0.7 & such precipitated my dual-post. {sigh}

  9. Kate B.
    October 20th, 2005 @ 12:31 pm

    MBains–

    It’s one thing to crticize an action based on belief. Fine. It’s another, however, to imply that the action based on belief is taken because the believer really thinks he’s as crazy as you think he is. People don’t, generally, wake up in the morning and say, “Think I’ll be crazy today.” To address their actions as if they do that doesn’t get at the reasoning behind the actions, and doesn’t make for a strong argument against the actions. I was under the impression that cogent argument against irrational behavior was the point here, rather than mere bashing.

    RA–

    #3 above is the post that I didn’t think had published, and that came out harsher than I meant it to. I apologize. I do not mean to knock your writing or your blog; I mean only to suggest something that could make your case stronger.

  10. leon
    October 20th, 2005 @ 12:50 pm

    EVA,
    Just kidding!

    The page is screwed up.. hehe

  11. The Raving Atheist
    October 20th, 2005 @ 2:08 pm

    Chris (the webmistress) wrote me about updating Moveable Type today so perhaps that’s what’s wrong with the page.

  12. Qwertz
    October 20th, 2005 @ 9:17 pm

    The Church of the New Song (abbreviated CONS, get it?) was founded in a prison in the 70s and requires ‘adherants’ to eat porterhouse steak and drink sherry on every friday. They even won a lawsuit when prison officials refused to accomodate them.

    -Q

  13. cubic rooms
    October 20th, 2005 @ 10:21 pm

    I think the court could avoid taking sides regarding religion by requiring the prisons to furnish well balanced, nutritious meals and let the inmates decide whether to eat or not.

  14. Debbie
    October 21st, 2005 @ 11:37 am

    Kate,

    I think you see different tactics used here to demonstrate how religious belief can have absurd consequences.

    Satire is often much more effective to highlight such absurdities than a dry point-by-point analysis, but RA and others have also posted such arguments too.

    When attacking people like Phelps, Falwell and Robertson, straw men or satire are hardly necessary as they parody themselves. Even patently obvious satire such as Landover Baptist is not seen as such by many Christians who see worse from Phelps, Robertson, Falwell and lesser known pastors on a daily basis in their communities.

    But if you do use satire it’s normal for a little exaggeration to emphasise the follies and ludicrous consequences of religion. OK, no flavor of Judaism has a unicorn to my knowledge, but prohibitions on shellfish have led to insanity such as the concerns over microscopic crustaceans in the New York water supply. Similarly, mainstream Christian demoninations can’t agree regarding whether consumption of meat is allowed on Friday, whether homosexuals can be Christians etc.

    When using obvious satire, would it really make a difference if only actual follies were referenced rather than equally likely fabricated nonsense?

  15. BigBuddhaPuppy
    October 21st, 2005 @ 12:15 pm

    Since we are a Christian nation, can we kill them?

  16. Debbie
    October 21st, 2005 @ 4:14 pm

    oops … “Christian Demoninations” should have been “denominations”

  17. MBains
    October 23rd, 2005 @ 11:14 am

    Debbie said:

    oops … “Christian Demoninations” should have been “denominations”

    If you say so Debbie. {-;

    And I agree. You’re explanation fits my reasoning in posting burn baby, burn.

    I don’t see where it matters that someone is unaware of their own insanity whilst in process of demonstrating it unless, by being made aware of it they can then abstain from the demonstration.

    Sometimes I feel nicer than I do at other times Kate B. Sometimes, especially on this site, I’m quite a bit less than concerned with being nice. Humor is more the point; even when it is absurd and lacking efficacy. I think this explains why the same temporal caveat goes for my concern with being cogent. Sometimes I am. Sometimes, not so much…

  18. gregg
    October 24th, 2005 @ 11:31 pm

    Can we make a rule requireing certain people to be aborted?

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