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Manner of Speaking

September 22, 2005 | 18 Comments

Jesse Taylor of Pandagon makes a fine point regarding obscenity and political discourse. I have made the same observation repeatedly in connection with the public discussion of faith: that moral obscenities, religiously expressed, receive less condemnation than the truth blasphemously spoken. Thus, the Vatican may, with little media censure, blandly declare that gays are

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18 Responses to “Manner of Speaking”

  1. franky
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 3:01 pm

    duh, cause they’re holy! Come on RA, that was an easy one. Logic and reason can’t stand up to the fact that these guys are extra special.

  2. MBains
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 4:22 pm

    It happens.

    BTW, to your usage of An Atheistic Examination of the Culture of Death: Since abortion is a life-affirming choice; one which requires serious consideration of the meaning of bringing a new human into an over-crowded world of limited usage resources, your use of this sub-heading objectively constitutes the creation of a straw-man.

    Otherwise, I love the title TUA. Very factual.

  3. a different tim
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 6:00 pm

    Er…I’m not sure abortion is life affirming, technically. And I’m pro choice.

    Incidentally, does this mean we should swear loads in this thread?
    Cuntbubble! Pigfuck! Big dog’s cock!
    Excellent.

  4. Aeger
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 6:19 pm

    he he he. . . twat.

  5. Michael Trefry
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 7:54 pm

    I actually kind of like Amanda, as far as feminazi’s go, she’s a yummy one.

    I can’t believe she banned you though, that was a completely fucked up thing to do.

  6. Antigone
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 8:39 pm

    Using “feminazi” is the fastest way to get banned. That shows a serious lack of respect towards feminists and devalues what Nazis actually did.

    Do you see feminist rounding guys up into death camps? NO? Shut the fuck up, mouth-breather.

  7. Anonymous
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 8:58 pm

    I try not to go places where my views can get me banned.

    So I sit here and argue with Steve G. and sometimes Frank, two theists whose ability to argue I respect, and many atheists, some of whose wisdom and knowledge I respect, and the occasional ign’nt a-hole who parrots the last pastor who took his money while he sat spellbound and then condemns others with the power of god.
    It passes the time.

  8. MrMxyztplk
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 9:05 pm

    http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/05/08/edi05061.html

    Sign the Petition: Either the Bush Kids Put Their Lives on the Line for George’s “Noble War” or the Troops Come Home.

    Sign this petition, demanding that the eligible
    children of the extended Bush family, including the twins, serve in George’s “noble war for a noble cause” or Bush must bring the sons and daughters of America home now.

    “I demand that George W. Bush’s daughters, and his eligible nieces and nephews, serve in Iraq to prove their support of Bush’s ‘noble war for a noble cause.’

    If the Bush family does not believe in ‘sacrificing’ for the war and is not willing to put their lives on the line, then Bush must bring the troops of middle class and poor Americans home now.”

    Your signature will be sent to the White House, media outlets, and Congressional leaders.

    Like George did, the new generation of Bushes let other Americans do the dying for them.

    Bush has derided the mothers and fathers of our nation’s war dead for not wanting any more young American men and women to die in Iraq. “We owe them [the already killed and wounded soldiers] something,” he told veterans in Salt Lake City (even though his administration tried to shortchange the veterans agency by $1.5 billion, according to Maureen Dowd). “We will finish the task that they gave their lives for.”

    Yet, not one — not one — of any of Bush’s children or his nieces and nephews have volunteered for service in any branch of the military or volunteered to serve in any capacity in Iraq. Not one of them has felt the cause was noble enough to put his or her life on the
    line.

    Here is the full list of the children of Bush and his siblings who have chosen to let other young men and women — mostly poor, rural and minorities — die for them, because they have no desire to die for George W. Bush’s alleged “noble cause” (assuming an eligible age of 17 with parental consent to join the military):

    Military Service Eligible Children of George W. Bush
    Jenna Bush
    Barbara Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Jeb Bush
    George P. Bush
    Noelle Bush
    John Ellis Bush Jr.

    Military Service Eligible Children of Neil Bush
    Lauren Bush
    Pierce Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Marvin Bush
    Marshall Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Dorothy Bush
    Koch
    Samuel LeBlond
    Ellie LeBlond

    Furthermore, not one of George’s siblings served in the military when they were eligible, and Bush got a cozy stateside position in the Texas Air National Guard to avoid risking his life in another “noble war,” Vietnam.

    Why do George W. Bush, his siblings, and their
    children think that the war is “noble” enough for kids like Casey Sheehan to die in, but not them?

    Sign this petition, demanding that the Bush sibling children serve in George’s “noble war” or he must bring the troops home now. Because if it’s not “noble” enough for the Bush family to risk their lives fighting for, it’s just a disastrous graveyard for poor and middle class Americans, dug deep to advance Bush’s partisan agenda.

    Bush can be brave with other people’s children,
    because he has nothing personally to risk. Sign the petition now on behalf of the lives of the real Americans who are not born into the lap of privilege and risk-free lifestyles reserved for the elite.

    “I demand that George W. Bush’s daughters, and his eligible nieces and nephews, serve in Iraq to prove their support of Bush’s ‘noble war for a noble cause.’

    If the Bush family does not believe in ‘sacrificing’ for the war and is not willing to put their lives on the line, then Bush must bring the troops of middle class and poor Americans home now.”

    http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/05/08/edi05061.html

  9. MrMxyztplk
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 9:05 pm

    http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/05/08/edi05061.html

    Sign the Petition: Either the Bush Kids Put Their Lives on the Line for George’s “Noble War” or the Troops Come Home.

    Sign this petition, demanding that the eligible
    children of the extended Bush family, including the twins, serve in George’s “noble war for a noble cause” or Bush must bring the sons and daughters of America home now.

    “I demand that George W. Bush’s daughters, and his eligible nieces and nephews, serve in Iraq to prove their support of Bush’s ‘noble war for a noble cause.’

    If the Bush family does not believe in ‘sacrificing’ for the war and is not willing to put their lives on the line, then Bush must bring the troops of middle class and poor Americans home now.”

    Your signature will be sent to the White House, media outlets, and Congressional leaders.

    Like George did, the new generation of Bushes let other Americans do the dying for them.

    Bush has derided the mothers and fathers of our nation’s war dead for not wanting any more young American men and women to die in Iraq. “We owe them [the already killed and wounded soldiers] something,” he told veterans in Salt Lake City (even though his administration tried to shortchange the veterans agency by $1.5 billion, according to Maureen Dowd). “We will finish the task that they gave their lives for.”

    Yet, not one — not one — of any of Bush’s children or his nieces and nephews have volunteered for service in any branch of the military or volunteered to serve in any capacity in Iraq. Not one of them has felt the cause was noble enough to put his or her life on the
    line.

    Here is the full list of the children of Bush and his siblings who have chosen to let other young men and women — mostly poor, rural and minorities — die for them, because they have no desire to die for George W. Bush’s alleged “noble cause” (assuming an eligible age of 17 with parental consent to join the military):

    Military Service Eligible Children of George W. Bush
    Jenna Bush
    Barbara Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Jeb Bush
    George P. Bush
    Noelle Bush
    John Ellis Bush Jr.

    Military Service Eligible Children of Neil Bush
    Lauren Bush
    Pierce Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Marvin Bush
    Marshall Bush

    Military Service Eligible Children of Dorothy Bush
    Koch
    Samuel LeBlond
    Ellie LeBlond

    Furthermore, not one of George’s siblings served in the military when they were eligible, and Bush got a cozy stateside position in the Texas Air National Guard to avoid risking his life in another “noble war,” Vietnam.

    Why do George W. Bush, his siblings, and their
    children think that the war is “noble” enough for kids like Casey Sheehan to die in, but not them?

    Sign this petition, demanding that the Bush sibling children serve in George’s “noble war” or he must bring the troops home now. Because if it’s not “noble” enough for the Bush family to risk their lives fighting for, it’s just a disastrous graveyard for poor and middle class Americans, dug deep to advance Bush’s partisan agenda.

    Bush can be brave with other people’s children,
    because he has nothing personally to risk. Sign the petition now on behalf of the lives of the real Americans who are not born into the lap of privilege and risk-free lifestyles reserved for the elite.

    “I demand that George W. Bush’s daughters, and his eligible nieces and nephews, serve in Iraq to prove their support of Bush’s ‘noble war for a noble cause.’

    If the Bush family does not believe in ‘sacrificing’ for the war and is not willing to put their lives on the line, then Bush must bring the troops of middle class and poor Americans home now.”

    http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/05/08/edi05061.html

  10. Sportin' Life
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 11:00 pm

    Language sometimes adds the right emphasis, but in this case you sound like Fred Phelps, and it makes me laugh. It’s probably the “whore-blog” that does it.

  11. Sportin' Life
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 11:00 pm

    Language sometimes adds the right emphasis, but in this case you sound like Fred Phelps, and it makes me laugh. It’s probably the “whore-blog” that does it.

  12. Sportin' Life
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 11:00 pm

    Language sometimes adds the right emphasis, but in this case you sound like Fred Phelps, and it makes me laugh. It’s probably the “whore-blog” that does it.

  13. Sportin' Life
    September 22nd, 2005 @ 11:00 pm

    Language sometimes adds the right emphasis, but in this case you sound like Fred Phelps, and it makes me laugh. It’s probably the “whore-blog” that does it.

  14. a different tim
    September 23rd, 2005 @ 5:00 am

    I liked “whore-blog”. Not sure abut “feminazi” – I have only previously seen this one used by right wing women-should-stay-in-the-kitchen types who wish to continue beating their wives without interference.

    There are worse insults than feminazi anyway if you wish to insult women. Like “jism-drenched rotting fuckslut”, and “Ann Coulter”.

  15. St.Teabag
    September 23rd, 2005 @ 5:06 am

    a different tim, may I ask, what is the differnce between a jism-drenched rotting fuckslut and Ann Coulter?

  16. a different tim
    September 23rd, 2005 @ 6:36 am

    I don’t know. Is this a riddle?

  17. jahrta
    September 23rd, 2005 @ 9:22 am

    the difference is that you usually have to pay the latter

  18. Joseph Hertzlinger
    September 26th, 2005 @ 12:03 am

    Obscenity no longer shocks. It is thought provoking but the thoughts it provokes are along the lines of: “Does he think he’s making a point?”

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