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April 5, 2004 | 22 Comments

Who are more religious, heterosexuals or homosexuals?


22 Responses to “Gays and Straights”

  1. Eva
    April 5th, 2004 @ 6:36 am

    as per the previous qotd, it should be the most opressed groups of the two……or the homosexuals….there’s also gay republicans….
    but i’ve heard that the muslim closet is HUGE……….

  2. Kevin
    April 5th, 2004 @ 8:38 am

    I think you also need to take into account that christianity never hated women as it is claimed to hate homosexuality. Still, it’s amazing what people will have faith in, even when it claims to hate you. Like minorities who support the republicans. Gay people who support republicans. Everyone who isn’t rich and supports the republicans.

  3. Eva
    April 5th, 2004 @ 8:50 am

    Indeed, Kevin….
    I would love to read a good book that could explain the sociology/psychology of religionism from an atheists perspective. Personally, this is the most interesting part of god-belief, I think…
    Stockholm Syndrome, anyone?

  4. The Serpent
    April 5th, 2004 @ 9:42 am


  5. me oh my
    April 5th, 2004 @ 9:50 am

    Any religion with “celibacy” requirements is probably a sign (at least in the leadership) of a strong homosexual undercurrent. The leadership, of course, is a small part of the whole body.

  6. Kevin
    April 5th, 2004 @ 10:08 am

    Peeing your bed is a sin!? That is the most pathetic example I’ve ever heard. Having bodily waste in close contact with your skin for hours on end is bad for you. And unless you’re being raised by a monster, you’ll never be told that wetting the bed will send you to hell.

    On the other hand, many, many people will tell you that homosexuality is a sin. They will tell you that you will burn in hell for that sin. And no matter how much you claim to only hate the sin, any reasonably intelligent person knows that’s a load of garbage. Only a few people in this world can honestly claim that they do not hate. I doubt that you are one of them.

    So stop prevaricating.

  7. Kommander Killjoy
    April 5th, 2004 @ 10:30 am

    Serpent; Thanx for being definitive. (No reply please).


    EVERYBODY hates something or someone, to say they don’t would be hypocrytical – but then look who were talking about here.

  8. The Serpent
    April 5th, 2004 @ 10:46 am

    Kevin: Peeing your bed is a sin!?

    Sin = An action (choice) which you know to be ultimately non-beneficial.

    Kevin: That is the most pathetic example I’ve ever heard.

    So since you don

  9. Viole
    April 5th, 2004 @ 11:05 am

    You may find it amazing, Serpent, but on the receiving end, pity looks an awful lot like hate–especially to those who do not want or need pity. No one here needs your pity; you look like the pitiful one, from this direction.

    Do you want our pity?

  10. Kommander Killjoy
    April 5th, 2004 @ 11:19 am

    Holy shit can we just ignore him… PLEEEAAASE!!!
    Why people think that his comments and rebuttals, so chocked full of fool’s gold, are worthy of anything but riddicule and mockery is beyond me.
    By providing him a perfectly logical reason why he sounds insane makes you one of the insane. He’s insane, your attempts only make him more insane. So who’s more insane? Everything he says falls clearly outside the boundries of “normal”…
    (1. Relating to or characterized by average intelligence or development.
    2.Free from mental illness; sane.
    human thought pattern, and is.)… from…

    … outside the boundries of normal human emotionality and social interaction.

    He’s not even amusing any more.Can’t we just leave him alone?


  11. Kevin
    April 5th, 2004 @ 11:20 am

    Snakey; sin is a term used by religion. It doesn’t mean something that is ultimately ‘non-beneficial.’ To sin is to violate the law of god. Since you apparently believe that we all worship ‘TLOP,’ and yet you say we cannot violate the laws of physics, atheists cannot sin.

    Now, I might think that there’s nothing wrong with homosexuality, but there are an awful lot of people who believe the opposite, and would certainly say so to their children. How is this different from wetting the bed? Most people don’t know their sexual preference when they’re still wetting the bed.

    As for the rest of it, get your head out of your ass, if you can. You not only have a serious problem with keeping stuff in context, your only major argument with what I’ve said is, ‘You’re using theistic language! You must believe in god!’ For all that you whine about other people reading minds, you sure seem to be doing a lot of it.

  12. Anonymous
    April 5th, 2004 @ 11:28 am

    Eva: but i’ve heard that the muslim closet is HUGE……….

    Serpent: How can that be? Are you asserting that individuals can actually control their

  13. Eva
    April 5th, 2004 @ 11:29 am

    oops, that was me…..sorry…..

  14. AK
    April 5th, 2004 @ 12:02 pm

    Yea Serpents definitions of religion and sin are totally wrong. I already told him the definition of religion before but he ignored me.

    Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
    A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

    The breaking of one or more of the Biblical Gods ten commandments. (dont you dare ask me to define the ten commandments!)

    Sin is definitely not something so broad as to be “an action that is non beneficial”. It is much more narrowly defined in the Bible than that. If Serpents definition of sin was correct, then I would be sinning every time I read the Bible or paid attention to Serpent LOL

    If Serpents definition of religion were correct, then it would literally be impossible to exist and not be religious, and it woul also be impossible not to believe in a supernatuiral entitiy.

    Serpent thinks that if anyone has any view whatsoever of how the universe came to be, that that view is automatically based in supernatural belief and religious practice or reverence.

    Religious beliefs are not a requisite of holding any view of the universes existence and/or origin. That is according to the definition of the word religion as defined by the Websters dictionary.

  15. Redfred
    April 5th, 2004 @ 1:11 pm

    Can I just say, “who cares” for the last two questions, surely we are beyond these kind of questions aren’t we?

  16. hermesten
    April 5th, 2004 @ 1:26 pm

    I know a good God-fearing red-blooded flag-waving American like Serpent would never quote from the pantywaist European Oxford Dictionary, so here

  17. Kevin
    April 5th, 2004 @ 1:44 pm

    About all I can say to that, hermesten, is that I don’t know how I’d deal with Snakey without your occasional humor. Well, that and, ‘I’ll leave reading Snakey’s mind to you.’

  18. Kommander Killjoy
    April 5th, 2004 @ 2:36 pm

    Redfred MY BROTHER!!

    Consistancy… Hobgoblin of weak mind… Repeated ourselves 5 times already… Need a new concept to chew on… Blah blah blah… Yackity smackity blah blah… snuh?!… Buh?!… Wuzuzuh-huh??!! Grglrglrgl…

  19. Jenia
    April 5th, 2004 @ 6:13 pm

    Thank you Redfred.

    Unless someone could enlighten me, I fail to see the purpose of the last two questions.

  20. Redfred
    April 5th, 2004 @ 6:26 pm

    Couldn’t we come up with something a little more worthwhile?

  21. DP
    April 5th, 2004 @ 9:41 pm

    Can tomorrow’s question be metrosexuals versus transexuals? PLEASE??

  22. EclecticGuru
    April 6th, 2004 @ 4:14 pm

    Feeding the troll is a sin.

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