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		<title>By: Mads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cool, though.  Jesus is a cunt.</description>
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		<title>By: Odin's Warg</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-43900</link>
		<dc:creator>Odin's Warg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Forn Sidr cult members were to make trouble in America, we’d simply label them terrorists and throw them into our concentration Camp Delta at Guantanamo Bay. Do it on a Wednesday or Thursday (Odin’s and Thor’s Day).&quot;

It&#039;s called Odin&#039;s Rite. They already have applied for religious status within the United States, and it was granted without any hesitation. They also have applied to have Odinist rituals performed within the military for those who wish it (Though this may take a while, as there are not very many Odinists within the military, though I was one of them.) They have prison outreach programs, food drives, basic charity work. So yeah, they sure all got thrown into Guantanamo. I&#039;m glad to see the government shows a more enlightened view than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Forn Sidr cult members were to make trouble in America, we’d simply label them terrorists and throw them into our concentration Camp Delta at Guantanamo Bay. Do it on a Wednesday or Thursday (Odin’s and Thor’s Day).&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called Odin&#8217;s Rite. They already have applied for religious status within the United States, and it was granted without any hesitation. They also have applied to have Odinist rituals performed within the military for those who wish it (Though this may take a while, as there are not very many Odinists within the military, though I was one of them.) They have prison outreach programs, food drives, basic charity work. So yeah, they sure all got thrown into Guantanamo. I&#8217;m glad to see the government shows a more enlightened view than you.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Evans (UK)</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-3941</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Evans (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to the Native Northern European religion Forn Sidr (also known as Asatru and Odinism). Your article refers to Norse beliefs as &#039;myths&#039;. All religions are based upon mythology. Christianity has it&#039;s mythology as does Hinduism etc. Hindu mythology is somewhat similar in parts to Norse mythology. Those who discriminate or deny that Forn Sidr is a valid religion would never dare do the same to the Native religion of say North America&#039;s Indians. That would be racism. But when the Native culture of Europe is mocked it seems to be acceptable. Even when ethnic Europeans (or Whites) themselves participate in it! Well I think it isn&#039;t acceptable and ethnic Europeans need to stand and fight this form as racism. No single religion is better or worse than another. The USA needs to start living up to its 1st Amendment and include the fair and equal treatment of Forn Sidr alongside Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Native American religion etc as a valid part of world religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to the Native Northern European religion Forn Sidr (also known as Asatru and Odinism). Your article refers to Norse beliefs as &#8216;myths&#8217;. All religions are based upon mythology. Christianity has it&#8217;s mythology as does Hinduism etc. Hindu mythology is somewhat similar in parts to Norse mythology. Those who discriminate or deny that Forn Sidr is a valid religion would never dare do the same to the Native religion of say North America&#8217;s Indians. That would be racism. But when the Native culture of Europe is mocked it seems to be acceptable. Even when ethnic Europeans (or Whites) themselves participate in it! Well I think it isn&#8217;t acceptable and ethnic Europeans need to stand and fight this form as racism. No single religion is better or worse than another. The USA needs to start living up to its 1st Amendment and include the fair and equal treatment of Forn Sidr alongside Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Native American religion etc as a valid part of world religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-3940</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think any religion should be recognized by government. If government realy isn&#039;t suposed to get into it they should even be giving christianity tax brakes and the like. A religion should be suported by the religies(?). And to regards in school, they should be teaching us about things not telling us what everything is, thats why not many people can even think. They should teach about these religions and call them religions. Even the greek and roman gods.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think any religion should be recognized by government. If government realy isn&#8217;t suposed to get into it they should even be giving christianity tax brakes and the like. A religion should be suported by the religies(?). And to regards in school, they should be teaching us about things not telling us what everything is, thats why not many people can even think. They should teach about these religions and call them religions. Even the greek and roman gods.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2003 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tangential but related:  A few years ago, when I first moved to Northern Virginia, there was a controversy in the schools.  I believe it was the Fairfax County school system, but whichever it was, the high schools were having speakers in every week to discuss various religions and &quot;spiritual beliefs.&quot;

The controversy arose because one of the speakers was from Anton Lavey&#039;s &quot;Church of Satan.&quot;  Parents were aghast at this particular speaker -- which is, as anyone who looks it up knows, not really &quot;Satanist&quot; per se, but hedonist and anti-Christian.  (No baby sacrificing or anything like that.)  So the schools passed out permission slips &lt;i&gt;for that speaker only&lt;/i&gt;, allowing parents to opt out of letting their children hear that speaker.

Apparently the First Amendment implications were completely lost on the school board, because the CoS promptly sued for religious discrimination.  (The parents should have sued as well, since their children were obligated to hear &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the other religious babblers.)  I don&#039;t recall the outcome, but that&#039;s what happens when you allow the government to give its imprimatur to mythology, and allow mythologists to address schoolchildren and present their beliefs as facts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangential but related:  A few years ago, when I first moved to Northern Virginia, there was a controversy in the schools.  I believe it was the Fairfax County school system, but whichever it was, the high schools were having speakers in every week to discuss various religions and &#8220;spiritual beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>The controversy arose because one of the speakers was from Anton Lavey&#8217;s &#8220;Church of Satan.&#8221;  Parents were aghast at this particular speaker &#8212; which is, as anyone who looks it up knows, not really &#8220;Satanist&#8221; per se, but hedonist and anti-Christian.  (No baby sacrificing or anything like that.)  So the schools passed out permission slips <i>for that speaker only</i>, allowing parents to opt out of letting their children hear that speaker.</p>
<p>Apparently the First Amendment implications were completely lost on the school board, because the CoS promptly sued for religious discrimination.  (The parents should have sued as well, since their children were obligated to hear <i>all</i> the other religious babblers.)  I don&#8217;t recall the outcome, but that&#8217;s what happens when you allow the government to give its imprimatur to mythology, and allow mythologists to address schoolchildren and present their beliefs as facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawken2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawken2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2003 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those who start religions then have to put up with true believers as lifelong companions.
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		<title>By: Steven Malcolm Anderson</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-3937</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Malcolm Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2003 18:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Forn Sidr (a.k.a. Asatru) 100%.  Hail Odin, Thor, Freya!  I tolerate no religion that is monotheistic, has a &quot;founder&quot;, or is newer than 1500 B.C.E..  Any such religion I presume to be invented, fabricated, false, a lie.  I hate Akhenaton.  Only the ancient, eternal religions for me.  Either polytheism or else atheism for me.
(By the way, Marvel&#039;s Thor comics are inaccurate.  A comic I once saw showed Odin with two eyes.  That is wrong.  In the Norse myths, He has only one eye, having sacrificed the other to drink of Mimir&#039;s well of wisdom.)
And, by the way, I keep recalling that, back in the early 1980&#039;s, I once saw a book entitled &quot;Forgiven Love&quot; with a picture of a wimpy Jesus on the cover -- separating two beautiful Lesbians.  Despicable!  I don&#039;t forgive that at all!  I don&#039;t know or care whether Jesus ever existed at all, but if he was ever in any way remotely like that, then crucifiction was way too good for him.  I hate his guts.  I&#039;m in a pissy mood right now.  Up with Lesbianism!  Up With Beauty!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Forn Sidr (a.k.a. Asatru) 100%.  Hail Odin, Thor, Freya!  I tolerate no religion that is monotheistic, has a &#8220;founder&#8221;, or is newer than 1500 B.C.E..  Any such religion I presume to be invented, fabricated, false, a lie.  I hate Akhenaton.  Only the ancient, eternal religions for me.  Either polytheism or else atheism for me.<br />
(By the way, Marvel&#8217;s Thor comics are inaccurate.  A comic I once saw showed Odin with two eyes.  That is wrong.  In the Norse myths, He has only one eye, having sacrificed the other to drink of Mimir&#8217;s well of wisdom.)<br />
And, by the way, I keep recalling that, back in the early 1980&#8217;s, I once saw a book entitled &#8220;Forgiven Love&#8221; with a picture of a wimpy Jesus on the cover &#8212; separating two beautiful Lesbians.  Despicable!  I don&#8217;t forgive that at all!  I don&#8217;t know or care whether Jesus ever existed at all, but if he was ever in any way remotely like that, then crucifiction was way too good for him.  I hate his guts.  I&#8217;m in a pissy mood right now.  Up with Lesbianism!  Up With Beauty!</p>
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		<title>By: Kafkaesqu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kafkaesqu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ll come clean. I accept the island of Hawaii as my lord and savior. This may seem irrational, but at least I can point to my god on a map.
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		<title>By: Kafkaesqu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kafkaesqu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2003 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ll come clean. I accept the island of Hawaii as my lord and savior. This may seem irrational, but at least I can point to my god on a map.
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		<title>By: Kafkaesqu</title>
		<link>http://ravingatheist.com/2003/11/forn-sidr/comment-page-1/#comment-7128</link>
		<dc:creator>Kafkaesqu</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ll come clean. I accept the island of Hawaii as my lord and savior. This may seem irrational, but at least I can point to my god on a map.
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